Talk: Vivempires

Nation Profiles[]

Spanish-German Commonwealth[]

Year Founded:1035(As Kingdom of Castile), 1156 (As Austria) 1592 (As the Austro-Spanish Empire), 1634 (union of the HRE)
Population: 234 million
Economy:Largest on Planet
Army:1
Navy:1
Tech:1
Allies:France, Sweden
Enemies: Lots; Ireland, Afrika Imperium, Nigeria, China, Russia.
Any things to note?: Spain and Germany distust each other.
Religon:Catholism, many others in various regions
Languge: Spanish, German.

Afrika Imperium[]

Year Founded:1270
Population: 100 million
Economy:2
Army:Largest
Navy:3
Tech:2
Allies:None Currently
Enemies: Spain, Ireland, Turkey.
Things to Note?: The Imperium continues to grow economicly and militarly, though it is highly decentilized.
Relgion:Catholisim, Islam, many others
Languge: Ethopian, many others

Nigeria[]

Year Founded:1400
Population: 67 million
Economy:3
Army;2
navy:3
tech:3
Allies:None Currently
Enemies:Afrika Imperium, Spain, South Africa, Portagul
things to note? Nigeria once had colonies in the new world as well as a navy to rival that of Europe's best, but it lost a major war to portagul, who took their new world coloines and disbanded most of their navy
Religon: Islam, many others
Languges: Many

Inca[]

Year Founded:1150
Population:60 million
Economy:2
Army:1
Navy:2
Tech:1
Allies:Aztec
Enemies:Spain and Portagul, though they rarely fight eachother
Things to Note: After Years of being a Spanish vassal, the Inca revolted and earned indpendence. Their tech Remains on par with Europes
Religon: Traditional
Languge:Quecha, Spanish, German

Aztec[]

Year Founded:1428 (Aztec Triple Alliance)
Population: 34 million
Economy:3
Army:2
Navy:2
tech:2
Allies:inca
Enemies:Spain, Portagul, and Ireland
Things to Note: Same as Inca, barring the "Tech on par part"
Religon: Traditional Belifs, Catholisim
Languge: Traditonal

China[]

Year Founded:Oldest Civilization on Earth. Current Dynasty Founded in 1271
Population: 500 million
Economy:3
Army:4
Navy:4
Tech:4
Allies:Muhgal, though relations are strained
Enemies:Japan, Korea, Turkey
Things to Note:China remains a large civilazation, though they are far behind Europe and the rest of the world
Religon:
Languge:Mandarin, Cantanese

Russia[]

Year Founded: 1283
Population:180 mil
economy:3
Army:2
navy: 4
Allies:Hungry
Enemies:Sweden, Spain, Turkey
Things to note:After Turkey following the Turkish Russian war.
Religon:Orthadox
Languge:many

Turkey[]

Yeark Founded:1299
Population:62 Million
Economy:2
Army:2
Navy:2
Tech:1
Allies:None
Enemies:Russia, China, Eithopia
Things to Note:None
Religon:Islam
Languge:Many

Muhgal Empire[]

Year Founded:Disputed
Population:350 million
Economy:2
Army:1
Navy:1
Tech:1
Allies:China, Strained Relation however
Enemies:No current major enemies, Distrusts the colonial empires of Europe and Afrika.
Things to Note?: Well off state.
Religon:Muslim, Hindu, many others
Languge:Many

Korea[]

Year Founded:Disputed
Population:57 Million
Army:3
Navy:3
Economy:4
Tech:5
Allies:None Currently,
Enemies:China,Japan
Things to Note: Currently a Back Water Nation. Weakest Independent State in the Game.
Religon:Neo-Confucianism
Languge:Korean

Japan[]

Year Founded:Disputed:
Population:40 Million
Army:2
Navy:1
Economy:2
Tech:1
Allies:None
Enemies:China
Things to Note: Dominant Power of the Far east
Religon:Many
Languge:Japanese

Ireland[]

Year Founded:Disputed
Population:137 million
Army:1
Economy:1
Navy:Largest
Tech:1
Allies:Portagul
Enemies:A lot; Sweden, Spain, France, Afrika Imperium, China, Japan, and more.
Things to Note?: Currently the strongest Sate on Earth
Religon: Catholic
Languge:English, Celtic

Balkania[]

Year Founded:Disputed
Population:80 Million
Army:1
Economy:3
Navy:4
Tech:2
Allies;Russia
Enemies: Turkey
Things to note: None
Religon: Christianity (Orthodox and Catholic)
Language: Slovene, Serbo-Croatian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian

Sweden[]

Year Founded:1611
Population:45 million
Economy:1
Army:3
Navy:1
Tech:1
Allies:Spain, France
Enemies:Ireland, Russia,
Things to Note: Once had a colonial Empire that was lost to Ireland
Religon:Catholic
Languge:Swedish

South Africa[]

Year Founded:Disputed
Population:84 million
Economy:3
Army:3
Navy:3
Allies:None
Enemies: Nigeria. Afrika
Religon:Many
Language: Many

France[]

Year Founded;Disputed
Population:155 Million
Economy:2
Army:2
navy:3
Tech:2
Allies:Spain and Sweden
Enemies:Ireland, Aztecs.
Things to Note:Wants to Kill Ireland
Religon:Catholic, many others
Languge:French.

Portagul[]

Year Founded;Disputed
Population:89 million
Economy:1
Army:2
navy:2
Tech:1
Allies:Ireland
Enemies:Spain, Inca, France
Things to Note:None
Religon:Catholic, many others
Languge:Portaguese

Question[]

In what year will the map game start?. IrishPatriot (talk) 13:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

So I was debating between doing it as simply "Turn X" or starting it in 1850.~Eon

As this game is pretty much says lolnope to history, I suggest Turn X The Technology is strong with this one (talk)

also can someone make an algothrim for Sweden. IrishPatriot (talk) 17:08, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Algorithm[]

Location:[]

Defending Nation: +10

On Border: +8

City near border +6

No former presence, core of army away from battle: +0

Power[]

Land is always aplicable, Navy is only aplicable when an attack on the coast is made. Air attacks must be plausable, if you have no air bases in the region you can't use it.

Large aerial assault capability +3.5

Large naval assault capability + 3.5

Large land assault capability +3.5

Medium aerial assault capability +3 (if enemy has no aerial power) +2 (if the enemy has aerial power)

Medium naval assault capability +3 (if the enemy has no naval power) +2 (if the enemy has their navy stationed in or around the location)

Medium land capability +3 (if three or more times larger than enemy) +2 (if less than three times larger than enemy)

Small aerial/naval/land capability: +1

Land, aerial, and naval is compounded. If you have large naval, medium air, and medium land, your score is 9 or 7. You cannot have medium aerial and large aerial at the same time.

Power is averaged in a coalition war.

Power is a multipler for development.

Industrial capablity[]

Spain,Ireland, and the Mughals:+5

Afrika, Sweden, Turkey, Russia, Inca and Japan:+4

Colonies of Ireland, Spain/Germany,Nigeria,:+3

China and Aztec, and Colonies of Afrika:+2

Everyone else:+1

Number of troops[]

Your troops/enemies troops

Your ships/enemy ships

Tiers[]

This is an experimental tiers Idea, this may be moddifed or dropped during the game.

Military tiers[]

Tier 1:+2

Tier 2:+1

Tier3 3:+0

Tier 4:-1

tier 5:-2

Largest:+3

Economy tiers[]

Tier 1:+2

Tier 2:+1

Tier3 3:+0

Tier 4:-1

tier 5:-2

Largest:+3

=navy Tiers[]

Tier 1:+2

Tier 2:+1

Tier3 3:+0

Tier 4:-1

tier 5:-2

Largest:+3

Points for tier[]

You take your average, so for a nation with a tier 1 military, economy, and a tier 2 navy, they would get +5, which would then be divided by 3 and rounded to the closest whole number.

WMDS[]

Will be added when they become relevent.

Motive[]

Economic (Gains land, resorce, etc): +4

Defending territory not owned by nation more than 20 years: +6

Defending territory not part of heartland but held for more than 20 years: + 8

Taking territory of similar culture but not part of nation: + 8

Aiding an Ally: + 10

Pre-emptive Strike: +10

Reconquest of core region: + 12

Unification: +15

Defending Heartland from attack that will not cripple/ destroy nation: + 12

Aiding Social/Moral Kinsmen who are being oppressed: + 12

Attacking to enforce politcal hegemony: +14

Defending Core/heartland from possibly fatal attack + 16

Defending from nuclear armed nation that has a motive over 5 and has not yet used their weaponry: + 16

Defending from nuclear armed nation, regardless of motive, that has used said weaponry: + 18

Defending from attack that will wipe out nation and culture: + 20

Counter attack:+5

Modifiers:

Non-democratic Government supported by people: + 4

Democratic government supported by people: + 5

Government not supported by people: -5

Troop Morale high (requires motive over 10, chance over 6, and stronger development scores in at least one category): + 10

Troop Morale low (any of the above: lower development scores in all categories, recent war penalty over 16): -10

Fighting Guerilla War: -10 attacker, + 2 defender

Implausibility: -4 per impluasibility

Undergoing revolt: -14

No Government:-25

Warning: Negative motive scores are possible!!

Lead nation's motive, not average.

Population[]

Greater than 100 million +30

Greater than 50 million +15

Greater than 30 million +5

Less than 30 million + 2

Larger than opponents: + 4

2x size of opponent's: + 5

5x size of opponent's: + 10

10x: +20

Every further order of Magnitude (eg 20x, 30x): +30

ONLY of the leading nations

Landscape[]

Knowledge of landscape: +10 for in one's homeland, +5 for warring in an adjacent nation, -1 for low knowledge of an non-adjacent lands which are on you continent, -10 for no knowledge of a distant realm that is not even on your continent and in polar regions (unless the attacker is also polar) -6.

Urban warfare: Attacker -2, Defender +2

Storming on to a coastline from the sea or on to an island, the attacker - 4 and defender + gains 5.

Storming in to a desert, high mountains, or jungle the, attacker -3 and + defender gains 4.

Armed expatiation in large extremism climates like Greenland, Niger, Nepal and Amazonia will also be very slow due to logistic and climate problems for any wood-be invader. In this case the defender gets an advantage of +5 and the attacker gets a disadvantage of -6

Allies[]

Leader Nations: +10 each participating

Military aid: + 5 each participating

Supplies: + 4 each participating

Cultural Support: +2 each participating

Vassal: -2 each participating

Vassal is an L:-5

Withdrawal: - 2 each nation which was participating and then left

ex: China (L) Vietnam (M) France (S) Britain (C) Japan (MV) Korea (SV) = 10 + 5 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 1 = 24

Please note that Vassals CANNOT give Cultural aid

Recent Wars[]

Each war in the past 15 years where nation was a...

Leader: -8

Military aider: -4

Supplier: -2

Military, Economic and Infrastructural development[]

Military, economy, and Infrastructure can be developed as the game progresses. Each turn you may develop 2 of the catagories. Infrastructure applies only to defenders and is not multipled by power. Development points last 20 turns each.

NPC development is a bit confusing. NPCs develop in this order: Infrastructure-Milititary and Infrastructure-Economy, Giving them 10 points in Military adn economy and 20 points in Infrastrucutre.

Treaty Breaking[]

Attacker breaks non-aggression pact/treaty: -5

Attacker breaks alliance: -10

Puppets/Vassals/Proxies[]

-1 for the first puppet

-3 for the second puppet

-10 for each following puppet/proxie

Multiple Fronts[]

-20 for fighting on 2 fronts

-15 for every front after

War of Iberian Unification[]

Spain-German Commonwealth[]

Location: +8

Industry: +5

Troops: +2 (Troops) +2(Ships)

Power:3.5+2=5.5

Tier: +2

Motive: 15+4=+19

Population: +30

Landscape: +5

Allies: SG(L)=+10

Military: 16X5.5=+144

Economy: 16X5.5=+144

Puppets: -64

Total: 185

Portugal

Location: +10

Industry: +1

Troops:

Troops:900,000/2,000,000

Ships:80/150

Power:+4

Tier: +1

Motive: 16+4=+20

Population: +15

Landscape: +10

Allies: Portugal(L)=+10

Military: 2X4=+8

Economy: 2X4=+8

Puppets: 0

Total: 83

Result[]

4 years to collapse. This is also not counting Brazil.